{"id":187192,"date":"2021-11-05T14:48:11","date_gmt":"2021-11-05T14:48:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.welovecycling.com\/wide\/?p=187192"},"modified":"2021-11-05T14:49:09","modified_gmt":"2021-11-05T14:49:09","slug":"how-is-the-legendary-pro-cycling-manager-developed-an-interview-with-a-game-designer","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.welovecycling.com\/wide\/2021\/11\/05\/how-is-the-legendary-pro-cycling-manager-developed-an-interview-with-a-game-designer\/","title":{"rendered":"How Is the Legendary Pro Cycling Manager Developed? &#8211; An Interview With a Game Designer"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Over the last 20 years, Pro Cycling Manager (PCM) has become the go-to cycling game for those who want to manage their own cycling team, emulate the professionals and win the biggest races in the world.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\nThis sounds simple enough, but just how easy is it for a games company to create something that will look and, more importantly, feel like the real sport? We went on a mission to find out.<\/p>\n<p>The company behind the game is Cyanide Studio, a French organisation with 15-20 members of staff working on each iteration of the game. One of those at the heart of the game is game designer Cl\u00e9ment Pinget, a cycling enthusiast himself, who is key to the output PCM has each and every year.<\/p>\n<lite-youtube videoid=FSUgI8O4A78 params=\"enablejsapi=1\" style=\"background-image: url('https:\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi_webp\/FSUgI8O4A78\/maxresdefault.webp');\"><\/lite-youtube>\n<p>First, we discussed how long it takes to put the game together, to create a product that improves each year, whilst satisfying the passionate PCM community.<\/p>\n<p>Clement explains: \u201cAugust and September are the months where most of the important new points emerge, the ideas, the important feedback from the previous edition, the big meetings with the development team.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThen during October, we start the development of the features until March.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cApril and May mark the start of a long sprint, where we can debug, polish the game or make small changes. Some late data (last jerseys, production of stages, etc.) arrive also at this point.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The game is released each year around the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.welovecycling.com\/wide\/2021\/10\/15\/the-2022-tour-de-france-route-has-been-revealed\/\">Tour De France,<\/a> for obvious reasons. The race generates a lot of coverage, something Cyanide Studios are quick to pounce on, announcing their new project.<\/p>\n<p>On their 2021 version, their headline feature was the addition of echelons \u2013 one of cycling\u2019s most entertaining and dramatic racing environments. But just how hard is it to put something so fluid and unpredictable into a video game, whilst remaining realistic? Clement had the answers.<\/p>\n<div class=\"embed-controller-wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Thrust yourself straight into the thick of the peloton with Tour de France 2021!<\/p>\n<p>\ud83d\udfe1 Redesigned My Tour mode<br \/>\ud83d\udfe1 New recovery mechanic<br \/>\ud83d\udfe1 More realistic peloton behaviour<br \/>\ud83d\udfe1 and more&#8230;!<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/TDF21?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">#TDF21<\/a> is now available on PC, PS4, Xbox One and in July on PS5 and Xbox Series X|S. <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/qLwgpYpDgq\">pic.twitter.com\/qLwgpYpDgq<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Tour de France Video Games (@PCyclingManager) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/PCyclingManager\/status\/1400361613815808002?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">June 3, 2021<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async data-src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/div>\n<p>He explained: \u201cI\u2019d say that most of the time, it\u2019s more difficult than easy because there are always surprises, side effects and things like that.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAdding features around something which already works fine can break the balance, especially in the race part.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cFor echelons, it mostly depends on defined areas in the maps. First we set a list of several stages that would get \u2018big wind areas\u2019.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt also depends on the dynamic of the race \u2013 something we cannot really control \u2013 who is in front, who is dropped \u2013 a bit like in reality. Sometimes you have that big leader missing in the first echelon, and that gives extra motivation for other teams to push full gas, and sometimes you just don\u2019t have the same story for any reason.<\/p>\n<p>Those narratives that we see throughout the sport are crucial within PCM to make each player feel immersed within their game. Speaking about that realism, Clement added: \u201cI\u2019d answer maximum difficulty, nearly always, because what feels realistic often matches with tons of parameters, but that\u2019s a game, not a scientific experience, so you have to think about the balance when designing a feature.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Those parameters can be anything from rider transfers, climbing statistics to applying an energy gel at the right time. Each separate entity has to be thought about, with any slip affecting that immersion. But, as Clement suggests, this is still a game and they have to strike the right balance.<\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/CQtcM_8Liof\/<\/p>\n<p>Clement continues: \u201cThe classical trap is to say: \u2018let\u2019s make the thing super realistic, take into account all the parameters and it will be fantastic.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSorry, no it won\u2019t because you\u2019ll have an out-of-control monster.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think the key is to find the right balance, being ambitious, smart, but you have to bear in mind that it\u2019s a game and that often the best is the enemy of the good.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The people judging the game the most, and the ones that can help shape it, are members of the aforementioned PCM community \u2013 a group of gamers who are arguably the most invested in it.<\/p>\n<p>One of these is Benji Naesen \u2013 a YouTuber with more than 14 years of experience with PCM. He has a following of more than 12,000 subscribers, so has a well-rounded knowledge of both the game and how it is designed, also assisting with the game in previous years. In this year\u2019s game he has been managing Eolo-Kometa, and although he feels the game makes racing realistic most of the time, there is still room for improvement.<\/p>\n<p>Speaking about this new feature of echelons within the game, he gave his thoughts: \u201cIn general, I am always excited by the list of features they will bring into the game that will be added. But when it initially arrives on your doorstep, it looks quite good, but once you delve deeper and look into the echelons\u2026 it\u2019s a preset moment in the race when the wind starts picking up significantly and you can see when that is going to start in the race.<\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/CNkYeU7rhlN\/<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt is also a consistent wind speed throughout that type of sector, which is kind of unrealistic in my opinion. In the end it\u2019s still the case. The problem is that not only can you put people on the front to put pressure on other people, it seems the competition \u2013 the other riders you are playing against \u2013 automatically starts riding worse.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s certainly not an ideal system and it is easily exploitable. That\u2019s the same for a lot of features in the game.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>For Benji, with the game being the only one of its kind too, it can be a limiting factor on each iteration\u2019s improvement on its previous version. Benji adds something that was echoed by Clement: \u201cThey can\u2019t seem to introduce a big new feature because they know it would be a much bigger investment because they need to fix things from the past to make that happen.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think that is a big issue when it comes to introducing new features, but it\u2019s also the reason why things they introduce now have issues or bugs in them and it\u2019s unfortunate for the player.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI get that it is hard to invest in a game that is so niche, but on the other hand you are going to lose your community and the interest in the video game. If it wasn\u2019t for the community who are making things better, then probably half the community would have left already. There is a love-hate relationship because this is the only cycling management game out there.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/CU9yz38rj1d\/<\/p>\n<p>But Benji also understands the opportunity this game has given him. From 2022, along with his work on other cycling projects, like the <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/LanterneRougeCP?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor\">Lanterne Rouge Podcast<\/a>, he will be going full-time as a content creator \u2013 thanks in part to his relationship with PCM.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAs a consequence of making these videos, we started a cycling podcast with a fellow YouTuber [LanterneRouge), and it\u2019s running quite well. We reach 50,000 people with each episode \u2013 it shows that there is opportunity out there in the cycling world. I feel like people who were once involved in the PCM community are now in the cycling industry.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s noticeable that our people are now involved in the cycling world and that gives motivation to people who think they are spending their time unwisely playing video games but in the end it can get you places.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Finding that fine line between creating a game and creating a real-life simulation will always be a tricky balancing act for <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cyanide-studio.com\/\">Cyanide Studio.<\/a> And although they are catching up with the real world, creating a game that YouTubers like Benji are able to replicate and build their own narratives in, work still has to be done to give every game the immersive feeling they crave.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Over the last 20 years, Pro Cycling Manager (PCM) has become the go-to cycling game for those who want to [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":99,"featured_media":187207,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[334],"tags":[5831,5830,5829,5832],"global-categories":[3366],"class_list":["post-187192","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-socialising-and-culture","tag-clement-pinget","tag-cyanide-studios","tag-cycling-and-gaming","tag-pro-cycling-manager","global-categories-cycling"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v25.3 (Yoast SEO v25.9) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Interview: How Is the Legendary Pro Cycling Manager Developed?<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Pro Cycling Manager (PCM) has become the go-to cycling game for those who want to manage their own cycling team.\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.welovecycling.com\/wide\/2021\/11\/05\/how-is-the-legendary-pro-cycling-manager-developed-an-interview-with-a-game-designer\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"How Is the Legendary Pro Cycling Manager Developed? 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